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MLS commissioner Don Garber says “You suck … ” chant must stop

Jul 24, 2012, 8:27 AM EST

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There are big bags full of “interesting” in Brian Straus’ wide-ranging interview with MLS commissioner Don Garber, which just posted in two parts on the Sporting News’ website.

One of the most fascinating and potentially incendiary part of the conversation was Garber’s response to the “You Suck …” chant, an ongoing conundrum that still reverberates painfully through some MLS grounds.

The chant, on opposition goal kicks is, “You suck, ***hole.”

It’s juvenile. Furthermore, it’s a doggone cliché, not a bit creative. The YSA-obsessed brigade really should just cut it out for the better good.  There are so many appealing ways to express true fan passion through displays and chants that are relevant and uniquely meaningful.

But the fans aren’t really attached to that chant per se; it’s the larger meaning and the desire in some fan corners to take MLS into more edgier places that a few supporters’ groups are determined to protect. So the YSA chant debate, so silly on its face, has come to represent something larger; it’s a proxy in the tussle between two disparate sets. More on that in a minute; first, here’s what Garber had to say:

That is just infuriating to me. It’s just so uncreative and ridiculous, and we need to stop it. Our broadcast partners don’t like it. When vulgarity is going over the air, it’s an issue with the FCC and we’ve got to stop it. (New England Revolution president) Brian Bilello stopped it in New England, and I really appreciated what the Midnight Riders did. They weren’t happy about it, but I looked to that as I sat with Sunil Gulati at the (Red Bulls) game and I said, “How’d you stop it in New England?”

He said, “We sat down with them and said, ‘You’ve just got to stop.’ ”

They need to stop it in New York, and they need to stop it in a handful of other markets. And if they don’t stop it, we’re going to have to find a way to eradicate it from our game. We can’t have young kids in stadiums listening to vulgarity. No other league would tolerate it. No other public event would have it and we can’t tolerate it in Major League Soccer.

As I said, the deeper fissure here isn’t the chant. Most reasonable supporters, especially upon hearing Garber’s sound reasoning, would gladly drop that particular set of words. But the debate opens deeper wounds, some of which are infected from years of scab-picking abuse.

It’s a fight between “fans” and “the establishment,” in some places.

On one side are “true fans,” the hard-core set that loves soccer, dies hard with their side and badly wants their home ground to emulate those overseas and in points south, a place of one shared, unbending desire: to see their team win.

On the other side are organizations that seek to protect a more contained set, the “families.” The moms and dads are looking for a night where soccer meets some loosely defined notion of wholesome entertainment. This set might not be as invested in the outcome, and in many cases they are more concerned with decorum and public civility than with win-loss records.

So YSA has become a referendum on what the club and it’s most identifying, tangible element (its stadium) will become. In places like Portland, Seattle and Kansas City, it’s a fans’ funland, where most anything goes so long as it rests inside the letter of the law.

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In places like New England, Columbus, Denver and Dallas, more weight is given to families, in large part because that’s their current customer demographic. Efforts to placate the harder-edged set amount to an ongoing push and pull, efforts that usually resemble a marriage of convenience. Progress comes and goes and the couples sometimes enjoy a good time together, but diverging ideas remain unresolved and an underlying hostility can never completely be erased.

Here’s the thing: everybody’s dollar is just as green. There are ways of compromise on the bigger issues.

It does seem to be about ongoing communication. The answers aren’t easy, but they are out there – so long as everyone doesn’t check their “reason” and “common sense” when they meet to talk about it.

That probably starts by eliminating YSA. It really is such a pointless and useless cliché.

  1. regularguy41 - Jul 24, 2012 at 8:43 AM

    There’s a third group – the people who think they define what “true fans” are and believe only their needs and wants matter because they and they alone create that definition. There are plenty of hardcore fans who don’t think they need to act like middle schoolers in order to support the team. It’s mainly the ones who derive their entire personality from being “soccerfan” and lording that over people they see as unfit to follow the sport.

    • manutebol - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:17 PM

      i’d rather act like a middle schooler than be a prawn sandwich eating bourgeois douche looking down his nose at working class people and culture

      • arjanroghanchi - Jul 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM

        this is, of course, and imbecilic statement to make.

  2. sluggo271 - Jul 24, 2012 at 9:06 AM

    Juvenile…yes
    Unoriginal…yes
    But, honestly, those kids say worse than that on the playground.
    Garber should be more concernced with the scrum that appears towards the end of every match. Or the constant and painfully obvious dissent after every call. That does more harm to the image of this league than a stupid chant.
    We used to say worse than that playing baseball as kids.

  3. dreadpirate82 - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:29 AM

    The chant is obnoxious. The Cauldron in KC has worked to get people to say “We are…Sporting!” in its place. Instead, it comes out sounding like “You suck, Sporting!” because people don’t comply. Is YSA meant to distract? I don’t understand the point of it. People need to get over themselves and yell something else.

    • jerichowhiskey - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:43 PM

      The problem is inertia. Garber can cry foul all he wants but he needs to realize that the natural reaction for many is to start up the YSA chant even when the capos are trying to start something different during goal kicks. It takes time, incentive, and something very good to replace it and Garber needs to work with that.

      New York had some success back in May or so stopping it, but it came right back last Sunday against Seattle.

      • dreadpirate82 - Jul 24, 2012 at 2:43 PM

        I agree. I just think people are being a–holes for the hell of it. It’s a reasonable request to stop, and it shouldn’t take an incentive to do so.

  4. handsofsweed - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:43 AM

    Wow. Garber has never been to an NFL game. He said that no other sports league would tolerate it. LOL.

    • handsofsweed - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:45 AM

      Well, no other “league,” that is. I was assuming he was speaking of all pro sports.

    • gazza305 - Jul 24, 2012 at 4:34 PM

      I’ve been to plenty yet still haven’t seen an organized group hurling obscenities at a particular point in time (like say a kick-off after a touchdown).

      There’s a difference between yelling BS at a ref after a bad call and YSA whenever you feel like it.

      • handsofsweed - Jul 25, 2012 at 2:59 PM

        Fair. I was @ the Crew game vs Stoke City last night and, sure enough, there was the YSA chant. I’m glad I got tix for us (my GF and her 6 yr old daughter included) on the FAR side of the stadium. They were also chanting ‘You effed up, a-hole” to the goalie, which is sad bc it really marred some otherwise great chants, like the “I believe that we will win” one.

  5. arjanroghanchi - Jul 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM

    This may qualify for longest comment in PST history. Please excuse the lack of brevity, but I am very passionate about this issue.

    In my office, I am the lone soccer fan (although I am probably better described as a soccer nut). Questions about the beautiful game are often referred to me; and I act as advocate for the sport. My most impassioned pleas are usually reserved for trying to convince my colleagues to make the 20 minute trip to Red Bull Arena on a weekend to watch a game. Most guys in here have young kids who play soccer. Most guys in here are also Giants/Jets/Yankees fans.

    Last year, a colleague took his family to a giants game. 6 tickets. $1,500. And they weren’t box seats. At that point, you might as well go to Disneyland.

    I hate this idea from Supporters’ Groups, that families somehow represent an undesirable fan base. I hate the idea that unless you jump and scream for 2 hours, you are somehow not a “true fan”. I hate the idea that that type of fan would somehow dictate game-day experience or indeed motivate the planning activities of the people responsible for building and maintaining stadia.

    I have been to probably games at Red Bull Arena between this season and last. You know what is really annoying? 2 different groups of supporters at opposite ends of the stadium banging drums and singing (a very small) repetoire of songs for 2 hours. It gets worse one days like this past Saturday when a rival like the Union are in town.

    For a group of people so committed to their “Non-Euorpeaness” and the unique identity of this league to try and emulate behavior that they see in other leagues around the world is quite ironic. By the way, I’m not sure this type of thing is really all that prevalent in the big leagues in Europe. Generally you will get a knowledgeable group of people clapping at good play by their team, booing poor calls by and official, and collectively gathering volume as a goal is scored. There is some singing, but it is very organic and usually much more creative.

    Think “The Fields of Athenry”.

    You can get a family of 4 into Red Bull Arena to watch Titi and Co play for $100. That is real VALUE. And by the way, the product is consistently improving. MLS and Mr. Garber should do everything they can to protect that value, which includes getting these hardcore supporters’ groups to chill. Eventually, MLS tickets will be like the NFL and you will have to save for 2 years to take your family to 1 game.

    I am really looking forward to taking my family to Red Bull games someday when my kids are old enough to watch. I am looking forward to explaining the action to my children. When they hear the arena clapping when the team wins a corner, they will develop a better understanding of the game.

    This whole issue stems from a snobbery that is quite unjustified. Most people I have encountered in the Red Bull SGs don’t have a great understanding of the game. They have trashed Titi (for my money a very good candidate for best player ever), they have demanded the ouster of Soler and Backe for two years. They advocate for players like Juan Agudelo (anyone heard from him lately?). But they are terribly dismissive of non-ultras. Anyone follow @MLS_Analyst? The general tone of his tweets can be described as condescending, even his bio line “learn the game you love” smells a little elitist to me. And he works for the league.

    Where do you think the NFL makes its money? The guys that dress like lady pigs at Redskins games? No. Its the father who instills a passion for his team in his kids, buys them lots of licensed gear. Watches games with them. Imparts the iconography of the team. Those kids will find heroes in the league, they will perpetuate the growth of the league.

    The guy yelling “You suck …” is not doing much to help the league.

    Well written article Steve.

    • carefreeinkc - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:35 AM

      i appreciate the well thought out comment and agree that families should absolutely not be left in the dust when it comes to marketing these games…

      However…the proof is in the pudding.

      Organizations that have chosen to embrace supporter culture have resulted in great atmospheres and filled stadiums. You see in Seattle, KC, and Portland as well as some other places.

      LSP where Sporting plays is fantastic because there really is a place for everyone.

      The teams that put family first generally have an embarrassing number of empty seats each game. I am not familiar with how NYRB goes about their business but I would certainly add NYRB to the too many empty seats group.

      You thumb your noes at elitism but sit here painting a wide brush of a large group of people who you feel don’t understand the game enough. There probably are a lot of hard score supporters that have a quick temper with the decisions in NY considering in their whole history they have never *once* won a trophy.

      Everyone gets to enjoy the game how they please but when you look around the league and see organizations that are having success in the MLS they are ones that celebrate supporter culture.

      Enjoy all the empty seats around you.

      • arjanroghanchi - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:48 AM

        Unfortunately you can’t really compare any of those places with the New York metro area now can you?

        The Red Bulls have to compete with, at various points in their season:

        Nets
        Knicks
        Devils
        Rangers
        Mets
        Yankees
        Giants
        Jets

        and the postseasons of all those teams with the exception of the Jets and Giants.

        You mentioned LSP specifically. LSP has a capacity of around 19k and generally fills it. RBA has a capacity of around 25k and averages around 17k. Despite all the other options in the area.

        Red Bull could have built a much smaller stadium, like say LSP, and looked fuller. But they are building for the long term.

        So to claim that “Organizations that have chosen to embrace supporter culture have resulted in great atmospheres and filled stadiums. You see in Seattle, KC, and Portland as well as some other places.” is largely an irrelevant point, due to the drastic differences in those cities and a places like NYC.

    • jerichowhiskey - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:46 AM

      Steve, I agree compromises must be made, but this would mean something would be offered in return for removing the YSA chant.

      Many supporters fear MLS will continue to reduce what they can do, and offering to remove something for free is the last thing they want to do.

      -I hate this idea from Supporters’ Groups, that families somehow represent an undesirable fan base. I hate the idea that unless you jump and scream for 2 hours, you are somehow not a “true fan”. I hate the idea that that type of fan would somehow dictate game-day experience or indeed motivate the planning activities of the people responsible for building and maintaining stadia.-

      The funny thing is, there are a lot of people in the South Ward who care about attendance. So while you may get that vibe from certain members, at the end of the game, they want to see a pack arena which would include families.

      Do not presume though, that this mean the supporter clubs must stop something for nothing.

      -I have been to probably games at Red Bull Arena between this season and last. You know what is really annoying? 2 different groups of supporters at opposite ends of the stadium banging drums and singing (a very small) repetoire of songs for 2 hours. It gets worse one days like this past Saturday when a rival like the Union are in town.-

      There are three supporters clubs in the South Ward mind you with differing opinions, and getting hundreds of people to bring a unified and loud voice for the players on the field is harder than you think.

      -By the way, I’m not sure this type of thing is really all that prevalent in the big leagues in Europe. Generally you will get a knowledgeable group of people clapping at good play by their team, booing poor calls by and official, and collectively gathering volume as a goal is scored. There is some singing, but it is very organic and usually much more creative.-

      Your definition of support is not universal and if you’re not sure, then you shouldn’t comment.

      -MLS and Mr. Garber should do everything they can to protect that value, which includes getting these hardcore supporters’ groups to chill. Eventually, MLS tickets will be like the NFL and you will have to save for 2 years to take your family to 1 game.-

      Or in other words do what happened in New England apparently. That will not go down well.

      -This whole issue stems from a snobbery that is quite unjustified. Most people I have encountered in the Red Bull SGs don’t have a great understanding of the game. -
      So this in turn means our idea of support should be curtailed, because we’re ‘stupid’ about what happens on the field…

      As in any group, there will be mix opinions and some are more noisier than others. Do not presume everyone agrees with one another (especially if you’ve never seen what goes on in our private boards!).

      • arjanroghanchi - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:54 AM

        “There are three supporters clubs in the South Ward mind you with differing opinions, and getting hundreds of people to bring a unified and loud voice for the players on the field is harder than you think.”

        Not sure what that has to do with my point about annoying drums and repetitive chants.

        “Or in other words do what happened in New England apparently. That will not go down well.”

        Not sure what this means.

        “So this in turn means our idea of support should be curtailed, because we’re ‘stupid’ about what happens on the field…”

        No, but don’t disparage others and their ideas and opinion because they are not “true fans”.

        “As in any group, there will be mix opinions and some are more noisier than others. Do not presume everyone agrees with one another (especially if you’ve never seen what goes on in our private boards!).”

        Unfortunately you belong to a group and there are impressions that your group makes to outsiders. You may not fit those impressions, but you belong to the group. If you are unhappy with that circumstance, you should address it internally and find ways to get your true message out.

    • manutebol - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:40 PM

      arjan the proof is in the pudding

      MLS spent the first 10 years of its existence trying to cater to families instead of supporters

      it was a massive fail. awful attendance and the owners lit hundreds of millions of dollars on fire.

      now they are catering to supporters more b/c that’s how you get season ticket holders and get people invested in your league (aka make money). not families who come once a year and don’t care about the result.

      Garber’s comments reek of MLS 1.0 attitude. If he really follows through on a crackdown on profanity like what happened in NE things could get really ugly. Supporters groups will not stand for it.

      • arjanroghanchi - Jul 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM

        How many people were at the game on Saturday? 19k or so? How many were in the southward? A few hundred?

        Do you see that the logic of your statement fails?

    • gazza305 - Jul 24, 2012 at 4:11 PM

      Great comment.

      You are absolutely right “…You suck … is not doing much to help the league”

      And for whatever reason the SG’s can’t take a step back and say ‘this behaviour is just dumb, it is reducing the number of fans and therefore costing the club and MLS money short and long term.’

      Just boggles my mind. Some of the SG leaders are very smart but …… this is just nuts.

  6. knowyrproduct - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:41 AM

    Here’s the problem, Sunil Gulati saying that the Revolution “just sat down” with the fans and asked them to stop. That’s a complete crock. That’s not what happened at all, not by a long shot. There was a goon squad crackdown on fans in The Fort, there were arrests, there was a summit meeting with angry fans, and there are still hard feelings about the entire incident among the team’s most dedicated supporters. I

    For the real “Fortgate” story I direct you to The Drug Is Football blog, one of the best to cover our red-headed stepchild of a soccer team: http://www.thedrugisfootball.com/2011/06/fortgate.html

    It isn’t about “YSA” or cursing or the family fans vs. the “ultras”. It’s about Sunil Gulati doing the whitewash job of the century and the commish swallowing it.

  7. term3186 - Jul 24, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    Frankly I think this is much ado about nothing. I mean really, in the grand scheme of things YSA really isn’t all that bad. In fact, I can’t think of a sport where worse things AREN’T said. In basketball you’ll consistently hear chants off “Bullshit” after the home town fans disagree with a call. Cries of “You suck ump” (and worse) permeate baseball, even when fans are hundreds of feet away from any umpire. Don’t even get started on what gets yelled out during football or hockey games.

    Its far worse here in Houston. We’re always yelling PUTO! When the opposition has a goal kick (to the best of my knowledge no one has complained about it). And if a team we really hate (i.e. Dallas) comes to town, get ready for earmuffs, because the entire stadium is liable to erupt into a chant of “Fuck you Dallas” (though I think we might’ve gotten into some trouble for that one).

    Long story short, I wouldn’t get too worked up about YSA. It just isn’t that big a deal. Is it silly and juvenile? Sure. But in the grand scheme of things, there are more important things to worry about.

  8. jerichowhiskey - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:15 PM

    You wrote ‘small repertoire’ of the songs we do. You don’t like how repetitive we are and the drums (why the hate on drums? LOL), then perhaps you can help us with a new good chant that the South Ward can actually agree on doing.

    Though frankly, this has nothing to do with YSA, but more of your annoyance with what the South Ward does.
    ————
    In New England, Kraft security had brought a heavy handed approach to stopping things like YSA which caused an uproar across the country’s supporters clubs.
    ———–
    -No, but don’t disparage others and their ideas and opinion because they are not “true fans”.-
    Ok, but what does this have to do with the YSA chant and its effects on the clubs and the league?

    You said “This whole issue stems from a snobbery that is quite unjustified.” as if that is reason enough to curtail the support we do.

    Rant your spiel about the South Ward somewhere else. This article has been about YSA through and through.

    • arjanroghanchi - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:23 PM

      YSA is an example of the issues facing the league between the SGs and the other fans. That seemed like the point of the article…

      What exactly has been the end result of the actions Kraft took, aside from causing you to uproar?

      • jerichowhiskey - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:31 PM

        Yes it is, and most of what you’ve written has been critiquing the type of support done and opinions of the South Ward (repetitive chants and drums are annoying, Henry is trash, etc), and not necessarily the ramifications of YSA itself.

        People were banned and arrested in NE.

      • jelliot1978 - Jul 24, 2012 at 6:00 PM

        During one of the games, I believe last season, against the Union the entire Supporters section walked out. The supporters did not buy anything while at the stadium. Now while the tickets were obviously paid for, NE Revs lost the revenue from the Supporters buying anything else.

        Now to your statements about Supporters and how you feel they detract from the game. I can fully understand that but I would offer that many non supporters, including myself, actually enjoy the atmosphere that the supporters bring. When done correctly they can liven up the arena. Plenty of players can be attracted to a team because of the fans at the stadium. Now there may be 1-2k supporters and 15-18k non supporters but the supporters are most often the ones that are heard. Now I am a STH for the Union and know full well what happens when you get the traveling supporters from the rivals come in. My seats happen to be near The River End (the Supporters Section) and the away supporters section is right next to my seats. Just across the tunnel I have (when a large amount come) the away team right there. Now I will agree that a drum can be excessive when it is not used properly, or, as in the case when DC United came, they have a drum that is entirely to big and you can really only hear that drum. It can; however, be used to set a timing for the chants.

        Now to the YSA, I agree that it is not really the best option to try and disrupt the opposing goalie. Each supports group has a large amount of people in it. Someone can come up with something original. The YSA is probably tuned out by the professional soccer player; however, if you can say/do something that is different and maybe catch them off guard.

  9. bobinkc - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:42 PM

    One of the reasons that Livestrong Sporting Park has a more family-friendly atmosphere is that team and park management got together before the first game and decided together that anyone who knowingly and willfully disrupts a game with bad language or throwing things on the field will be removed from the stadium for the remainder of the game. A record is made and any subsequent violation will have the offender banned for the season.

    Jimmy was struck in the face by a thrown bobblehead. The (somewhat drunk) thrower was removed BY THE POLICE (who are available at every game), Jimmy was patched up, and the game resumed. Management seems to be willing to recognize that “you cain’t fix stupid” and are willing to do what it takes to have a calm fandom.

  10. sluggo271 - Jul 24, 2012 at 12:46 PM

    The thing to remember folks is the opposing goalkeeper does indeed suck and he most certainly is an a;;:))le!

    • davebrett99 - Jul 24, 2012 at 3:57 PM

      Oh, so THAT’S why they do that chant. Because the opposing goalkeeper does suck.

  11. ndnut - Jul 24, 2012 at 1:38 PM

    MLS wants more of the high school/college football game feel with the SGs representing student sections. They are passionate while also being fairly clean given the situation. I for one do not believe this is too much to ask for if Otis given 3-5 years to permeate the entire culture of the groups.

  12. bishopvillered - Jul 24, 2012 at 3:01 PM

    Personally, it seems that most MLS chanting is pretty weak. Between YSA and the White Stripes’ “Seven Nation Army” baseline, that’s about all you ever hear in a typical MLS broadcast. They’re’ not adding anything to the game, just ripping off ages old chants. If these groups are as big on the team and game as they claim, use an ounce of ingenuity to come up with something new and hopefully positive.

  13. acieu - Jul 24, 2012 at 4:48 PM

    Send the offended Commissioner to an Oakland Raiders game if he wants to see real fan misbehavior. The MLS YSA is lie a nurser rhyme. Cut the beer sales out and the conduct will improve.

  14. SD1 Timbers Special Forces - Jul 24, 2012 at 5:28 PM

    YSA is stupid. If you yell it out you’re stupid. You’re THAT guy or girl. Portland at least has original and unique and oh god no, don’t say it, yes, creative chants. YSA is what a neanderthal grunts out spitting beer and hot dog when given the signal to do so, ie, goal kick.

    YSA does nothing to “get into the goalies head” it ONLY makes you look like meatheads who know how to string together three words simultaneously. WOW! Brainiacs!

    If that’s all you bring to table, don’t even sit down. I wouldn’t even call myself a supporter if all I can do is copy other people doing the same thing. Get creative, how hard is to be original? I guess pretty damn hard. So much in fact that people are actually mad that they don’t get to mimic and copy other people’s lame chant. Good luck with your cleverless tifo and three songs for hours. Sounds awesome.

    PS, You suck a hole is about as effective to getting into a goalies head as much as vomiting on yourself.

    • dreadpirate82 - Jul 24, 2012 at 5:34 PM

      Whatever, SD1. Haven’t you noticed the plague of goalies tripping over themselves when they hear those awful words? Wait a sec. Not one goalie has ever even noticed the chant?

      Man, I hate that chant. It’s not even a chant or cheer. It’s just stupid.

  15. donjuego - Jul 24, 2012 at 5:49 PM

    I find it astonishing that everyone talks about YSA, while not mentioning the NY Supporters always singing, very clearly for all to hear, that opposing teams “take it up the A**.”

    YSA is nothing compared to that ….

    • SD1 Timbers Special Forces - Jul 24, 2012 at 6:33 PM

      I find THAT astonishing! YSA isn’t even close, except the sexual semi-homophobic parts.

  16. zoophagous - Jul 24, 2012 at 6:46 PM

    Doesn’t the commish have better things to do? Seriously YSA is what disturbs him about the league?

    What I find funny in the whole SG vs families debate is that in Seattle ECS and the other SGs have tried to stop YSA because it’s unoriginal. It’s the families in the rest of the stadium that keep the damn thing going.

    And as others have pointed out YSA is pretty tame compared to some of the more original chants.

    I would argue that nobody goes to an MLS game, hears YSA and says “OMG I must never come here again. My poor virgin ears”

    YSA is a pretty small hump to get over. If your product on the field can’t get over that hump your problems are a lot bigger than YSA.

    So in conclusion – commish YSA.

  17. footballer4ever - Jul 25, 2012 at 12:36 AM

    I consider myself a loyal and passionate football fan, but not to the point to go vulgar at games. Hearing childish insults just diminishes the product presented on the field and around. As far as obscenities in spanish like “Pu70″ or “Cul3r0″ is just not only stupid, but blatantly nonsense. You want to vent off, bi7ch and moan, do it on your own, but there’s no need to do a chorus unless you do it in a tasteful and positive manner. I enjoy the football enviroment, but not bad enviroment with people who don’t know better how to liven up an environment cs being a party pooper.

  18. sw19womble - Jul 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

    Do MLS crowds really shout “you suck”?

    Because over in the UK it goes:

    ooooooooOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHH….

    YOU’RE SH1T! AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!

    Mind you, you guys also call offside “offsides” so anything’s possible. :)

    • themajorleagueblog - Jul 26, 2012 at 11:32 AM

      Some crowds shout, “you suck, a**hole”, hence the ellipses in the headline.

      I don’t know what Garber is complaining about, every league has heckling, from the Premier League to Major League Baseball. I don’t know why he’s trying to go for the “family friendly” card when its apparent their league caters to new adult fans. Every league has their problems, the MLS is fortunate to not have hooliganism or anything that comes with most soccer leagues around the world. Don Garber should just be lucky people aren’t fighting, let the team’s fans express themselves.

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  19. footballer4ever - Jul 25, 2012 at 4:36 PM

    @ sw19womble
    ….and your point is? I get it! I’m sorry to hear you are from the U.K. Not every get to choose where you are born or raised as wish you had to. (Big Smile)

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