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	<title>Comments on: Breakthrough moment for women&#8217;s soccer? Nah – they &#8220;broke through&#8221; a long time ago</title>
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		<title>By: joeyt360</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know about only one &#039;breakthrough&#039;, I think there can be one breakthrough per &#039;level&#039; of presence.  I think in terms of the international game, women&#039;s soccer in 2011-2012 reached a higher level than it was at in 1999.  The two evolutionary differences I saw:

1) The US was hosting in 1999, which was a big boost (the same thing happened in the men&#039;s game, where 1994 got boosted ratings because we were hosting it; it planted a seed that grew steadily, but I don&#039;t think any WC actually out-rated 1994 until 2010).  A lot of what fed the late round ratings was word spreading about the surprising attendance in the tournament.  (Shouldn&#039;t have been that surprising, women&#039;s soccer drew very well in the Atlanta Olympics in 1996).

2) It was treated in 1999 as if its purpose was just to prove some sociological point.  2011 came much closer to being presented as an orthodox sporting event.  And where the US had been prohibitive favorites in 1999, in 2011 a lot of people were putting us at even-money to even less to be there on the final day.

And of course, this time there was another major tournament a year later. . . and it&#039;s significant that basically no one said &quot;women&#039;s soccer. . . again? Didn&#039;t we just do that?&quot;

How that translates into a league is another matter.  Getting people interested week-after-week in a team that only represents their town, in a league that might fold yet again, is, as udub pointed out, an awfully big hill to climb.  

I will say though, that the only real certainty about predicting the future is that, eventually, one some issue that was assumed to be permanent, the people who say &quot;the future must be like the past and the present&quot; are going to be wrong.  Attitudes are &#039;permanent&#039;. . . until they&#039;re not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about only one &#8216;breakthrough&#8217;, I think there can be one breakthrough per &#8216;level&#8217; of presence.  I think in terms of the international game, women&#8217;s soccer in 2011-2012 reached a higher level than it was at in 1999.  The two evolutionary differences I saw:</p>
<p>1) The US was hosting in 1999, which was a big boost (the same thing happened in the men&#8217;s game, where 1994 got boosted ratings because we were hosting it; it planted a seed that grew steadily, but I don&#8217;t think any WC actually out-rated 1994 until 2010).  A lot of what fed the late round ratings was word spreading about the surprising attendance in the tournament.  (Shouldn&#8217;t have been that surprising, women&#8217;s soccer drew very well in the Atlanta Olympics in 1996).</p>
<p>2) It was treated in 1999 as if its purpose was just to prove some sociological point.  2011 came much closer to being presented as an orthodox sporting event.  And where the US had been prohibitive favorites in 1999, in 2011 a lot of people were putting us at even-money to even less to be there on the final day.</p>
<p>And of course, this time there was another major tournament a year later. . . and it&#8217;s significant that basically no one said &#8220;women&#8217;s soccer. . . again? Didn&#8217;t we just do that?&#8221;</p>
<p>How that translates into a league is another matter.  Getting people interested week-after-week in a team that only represents their town, in a league that might fold yet again, is, as udub pointed out, an awfully big hill to climb.  </p>
<p>I will say though, that the only real certainty about predicting the future is that, eventually, one some issue that was assumed to be permanent, the people who say &#8220;the future must be like the past and the present&#8221; are going to be wrong.  Attitudes are &#8216;permanent&#8217;. . . until they&#8217;re not.</p>
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		<title>By: acieu</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 11:38:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All it takes is money. Attract investors but to rail about what someone deserves is crazy. Just  find 8 billionaires who dont care about losing money and form the league.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All it takes is money. Attract investors but to rail about what someone deserves is crazy. Just  find 8 billionaires who dont care about losing money and form the league.</p>
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		<title>By: greej1938l</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Aug 2012 00:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Broke through a long time ago....LOL]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broke through a long time ago&#8230;.LOL</p>
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		<title>By: footballer4ever</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 23:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ udub-  if it works or not, i am sure you as the &quot;casual&quot; fan will have nothing to do with its failure or success.  One thing is for sure,  they deserve to have their own league and have the parents, kids and any other fans make that &quot;decision&quot; on the stands.  

You are neither insensitive or &quot;PC&quot;, you are just a negative person by nature.  If the WNBA is still around with whatever &quot;success&quot; they have, why can&#039;t women have their own league?  Noone is saying the next women&#039;s league will be better than any other sport. 

In the end, when it comes to soccer, some people can&#039;t stand the fact the sport is growing one way or another.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ udub-  if it works or not, i am sure you as the &#8220;casual&#8221; fan will have nothing to do with its failure or success.  One thing is for sure,  they deserve to have their own league and have the parents, kids and any other fans make that &#8220;decision&#8221; on the stands.  </p>
<p>You are neither insensitive or &#8220;PC&#8221;, you are just a negative person by nature.  If the WNBA is still around with whatever &#8220;success&#8221; they have, why can&#8217;t women have their own league?  Noone is saying the next women&#8217;s league will be better than any other sport. </p>
<p>In the end, when it comes to soccer, some people can&#8217;t stand the fact the sport is growing one way or another.</p>
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		<title>By: udub</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 21:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Say it&#039;s insensitive, say it&#039;s not &#039;PC&#039; but women&#039;s soccer is never going to be more than it is.  The USWNT is evident of that.  How much more success can they have and people still don&#039;t care except for 90 minutes while they go out and win a World Cup or gold medal?  People defending women&#039;s soccer, because they truly care or pretend to care so they can feel better about themselves, need to stop trying to shove it down the casual fans throat or they&#039;ll do more harm than good.  The more &#039;this is it, women&#039;s soccer has finally arrived!&#039; nonsense they try to promote the less I, and a lot of others will care because I just want to enjoy women&#039;s soccer here and there.  99.999% of the people who watch matches like US vs Japan for a gold medal are not going to suddenly just go, &#039;Damn, you know what I want to do now? Watch a regular season San Francisco vs Miami match in America&#039;s newest professional league.  I know this time it&#039;s not going to fail miserably and fold soon! Yeah!!&#039;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Say it&#8217;s insensitive, say it&#8217;s not &#8216;PC&#8217; but women&#8217;s soccer is never going to be more than it is.  The USWNT is evident of that.  How much more success can they have and people still don&#8217;t care except for 90 minutes while they go out and win a World Cup or gold medal?  People defending women&#8217;s soccer, because they truly care or pretend to care so they can feel better about themselves, need to stop trying to shove it down the casual fans throat or they&#8217;ll do more harm than good.  The more &#8216;this is it, women&#8217;s soccer has finally arrived!&#8217; nonsense they try to promote the less I, and a lot of others will care because I just want to enjoy women&#8217;s soccer here and there.  99.999% of the people who watch matches like US vs Japan for a gold medal are not going to suddenly just go, &#8216;Damn, you know what I want to do now? Watch a regular season San Francisco vs Miami match in America&#8217;s newest professional league.  I know this time it&#8217;s not going to fail miserably and fold soon! Yeah!!&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: footballer4ever</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[footballer4ever]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Aug 2012 20:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It raises the profile of the sport in the USA and more kids will look up to, dream and play to become those future footballers who get to play in a national team.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It raises the profile of the sport in the USA and more kids will look up to, dream and play to become those future footballers who get to play in a national team.</p>
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