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Galaxy defender Omar Gonzalez: the way San Jose plays is “embarrassing”

Oct 22, 2012, 11:28 AM EDT

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Major League Soccer owners refused for years to listen to fans and media, the majority of whom didn’t support the overly combative way domestic, professional soccer at its highest level was beaten into submission. There was too much brute force and aggression, too little technical skill and tactical problem solving.

The balance was way out of whack, and yet owners (and therefore Major League Soccer’s top levels) looked the other way, preferring to aim energy and effort elsewhere. This year has brought added emphasis to solving the referee problem, but the league’s top levels, along with U.S. Soccer, still have not done enough to address the overall temperament and overly physical style.

Just last week, none other than esteemed Italian defensive giant Alessandro Nesta, now with Montreal, said too many of the league’s strikers play “like animals.”

Well, perhaps the powers will believe their own players.

All credit to San Jose, a team that has talent, a respected coach and lots of momentum going into the 2012 playoffs – but one that gets a lot out of Major League Soccer’s continued leniency in the way matches are officiated.

Simply put, games with San Jose go hand-in-hand with lots of collisions, off-the-ball antics and dangerously reckless play. Don’t believe me? Listen to Omar Gonzalez, the 2011 Defender of the Year and a huge piece of the Galaxy’s success over the back half of 2012:

To be honest, this game wasn’t even fun. I think those guys are a bunch of jokes, the way they play the game. It was just obnoxious. And, you know, it wasn’t even fun out there. It was terrible.”

Preach it, brother! Gonzalez and fellow Galaxy center back Tommy Meyer were the latest unlucky fellows tasked to deal with Earthquakes striker Steven Lenhart, surely the most maddening player in MLS. Gonzalez goes on …

It all starts when the ball’s on the other side of the field, and you’re just running and all of a sudden you get blindsided. You just get checked by Lenhart or something. It’s just dumb [expletive] like that happens every time, and that’s not the way the game should be played. It’s embarrassing.”

I’ve said this before … and it’s important. I don’t totally blame the Earthquakes. Players and coaches are paid to win games. That’s the bottom line, and they have some obligation to do whatever is in their power to accomplish that primary mission. To that end, you can make a case that San Jose is simply better than other clubs at exploiting the league’s soft spot in enforcement.

On the other hand, I do blame Lenhart. Watching him foul on pretty much every sequence is maddening. That guy is ridiculous.

  1. adslazaro - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:34 AM

    Reminds me of what has gone on in the NASL the last two years–one team of total thugs bully their way through the league as lesser referees allow them to do it, but once the playoffs hit and the league pays attention to the quality of the referees assigned to bigger matches, they get found out and beaten by lower seeds.

  2. whordy - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:38 AM

    Well, he’s right.

  3. mkbryant3 - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:46 AM

    Wait. A defender on the losing team is whining about the way the game was played? Shocker!

    It seems the physicality (still hate that word) went both ways. Anyone see Buddle’s late challenge from behind on Bernardez, clearly after Bernardez had released the ball? What about the earlier SJ/LA game where Beckham chipped a dead ball right off the head of a fallen, injured San Jose player.

    Cry me a river.

    • Steve Davis - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:49 AM

      Well, it was a 2-2 draw, not a Galaxy loss. (But agree on “physicality.” Also surprises me when spell check doesn’t flag it.)

      • joeyt360 - Oct 22, 2012 at 6:07 PM

        And a road draw against the Shield winners, so I definitely don’t think the ‘poor result’ line works at all. (OK, so that road draw also meant the fading of their last shot at avoiding the Wild Card, but they had to expect that was a strong possibility for weeks. They had to know a road draw in Buck Shaw is a good result, all things considered.)

    • rtfinch - Oct 31, 2012 at 10:58 AM

      Didnt the player jump up as soon as the ball hit him? So much for being injured huh?

  4. rufulk - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:48 AM

    While I agree that the referees in MLS could be shored up a bit, I believe that this entire post is premised on one of my biggest complaints with soccer: that it values beauty over winning. Essentially, Steve makes the point that MLS strikers need to rely more on “technical skill and tactical problem solving.” Moreover, that being “overly aggressive,” even when winning the Supporters Shield, is somehow inferior to more aesthetically pleasing styles of play.

    I call this the “Barcelona Syndrome,” which is an infection that causes pundits to believe that even when Barcelona loses, they somehow “deserved” to win because they’re style move heavily relies on “technical skill and tactical problem solving.”

    For example (and pardon my wanton speculation) if you polled 100 soccer writers who “deserved to win” 2011-12 Champions League, and would bet the farm that an overwhelming majority would choose Barcelona. Why? Because they rely more on “technical skill and tactical problem solving.” This would be over a team like Chelsea, who, I don’t know, WON THE CHAMPIONS LEAGUE.

    To many like Steve, soccer must be “beautiful,” “aesthetically please,” or, to put it another way, rely on “technical skill and tactical problem solving.” It’s a crock. When a team win’s, they deserve it. Never, in 1000000 years, would an American football pundit ever say that the Pat’s “deserved” to win over the Giants in either of their last Super Bowl meetings. Why? Because the Giants won – simple as that.

    And you know who else won? The San Jose Earthquakes. We don’t need blog posts telling us why someone else deserves it more.

    • Steve Davis - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:54 AM

      You are putting a lot of words in my … uh … mouth. Well, my writing. You get my point …

      Show me where you see the words “beautiful” or “aesthetically” in my post. Go ahead. I’ll wait while you go back and search. Nor did I say someone else should have “won.” (Seriously guys … you saw the part where these teams tied, right?)

      My guess … you didn’t watch the match. (Or maybe I’m presuming too much now.) What I said was the balance is out of whack. I stand by it.

      My other guess … you didn’t actually read the post, not the part where I said San Jose has an obligation to do whatever they can to win. They exploit the system they are in, and I gave them some credit.

    • whordy - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:00 PM

      Let’s not start using the Chelsea win as any sort of measuring stick – we ALL know that was a 1/100 win.
      As for beauty vs. winning. There is certainly middle ground. The problem is that the MLS isn’t anywhere near it. Plenty of skillful teams play rough and tough, think Germany.
      No, not “rough and tough” like Leinhart – But that’s because he is on the far end of that spectrum. I understand winning is everything (which coincidentally is part of the minset that has weakened our youth development).
      But let’s not start trying to rewrite the fundamentals of soccer. We can’t compare it to the NFL, we can’t compare it to traditional American sporting attitudes. Because soccer doesn’t fit in those things.
      And as much as you want to pat them on the back for winning (and trust me, they deserve it. I am a Union fan and I WISH I could be critical of my team as they win the Shield) – lets be honest here. They wouldn’t beat a good Mexican team. No one on San Jose is currently a NT star or s projected to be. Their style simply doesn’t translate.
      American can pump their chests all they want, but unless you are happy with being a top 30 NT for the rest of our lives, this style shouldn’t be replicated nor overly embraced. You can cry foul all you want – but you aren’t going to change what soccer is.

    • Liviu Bird - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:03 PM

      Technical skill and tactical problem solving wins games at the highest level. Period. It’s why Spain has won the last World Cup and two European Championships. It’s why Barcelona constantly wins everything. Closer to home, it’s why Sporting Kansas City has been so successful this year. And finally, it’s why American soccer is still pretty far behind soccer in a lot of the rest of the world — and words and attitudes such as this are other big reasons.

      • donjuego - Oct 23, 2012 at 12:07 AM

        I agree with much of this post.

        Except if you think Sporting Kansas City is about technical skill and tactical problem solving then your not watching the same SKC I watch. SKC is all about athleticism and physicality. Foul in midfield without stop because referees don’t know how to deal with it. Beat your opponent into submission.

    • edgartronic - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:42 PM

      I don’t know who you are, but I dedicate this video clip to you:

    • joshuajnoble - Oct 22, 2012 at 1:13 PM

      The physicality and style of play is a disincentive for people to come to MLS and for people already here to stay here. MLS, right now, is far rougher and more reckless than England, Italy, certainly Spain, Argentina, or any of the other leagues I watch on a regular basis and that’s, quite simply, not a good sign for the league or the players playing in it. The constant body checks in the league are wretched and you don’t see those in any other league quite simply because the refs call them fouls and players stop doing them. I don’t want everyone to try to be Barcelona. Long-ball can be fine, catennacio can be fine, aggressive pressing 451 can be fine; letting the game devolve into rugby style tackling off the ball is not, because that’s not what the rules of the game say. You don’t have one weird baseball league where it’s fine to hit the batter sometimes, right? You shouldn’t have one weird soccer league where it’s usually ok to trip the defender, or barge a midfielder in the back when he has the ball. Unless you want to be the one weird league where it’s ok to do that, in which case people will go back to watching the stuff from overseas that looks how it’s supposed to look. At the end of the day, it’s about fans being entertained and paying for that entertainment. I don’t really like rugby and I won’t pay to watch it.

      • Steve Davis - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:30 PM

        Wonderfully put. You “get” it … *long, slow clapping*

      • donjuego - Oct 23, 2012 at 12:12 AM

        This guy is right. MLS allows way too much physical play. Challenges are out of control and its ok to get the player. Especially in midfield where you break up a counter and let your defense get set.

        It is kinda funny with Gonzales talking about it because Arena’s LA Galaxy are pretty bad at it. Kovalenko then Birchall were 100% hatchet men who just hacked opponents down all game.

    • crnelson10 - Oct 23, 2012 at 7:54 AM

      You seem to have “physicality” and “fouling” completely mixed up. We aren’t talking about shoulder to shoulder challenges or being brave in the air, or whatever. We’re talking about bush league b******t off the ball. We’re talking about blindsiding a guy who isn’t even involved in the play to either hurt him, or piss him off so that he’ll get a red card. That’s what we call cheating.

  5. moonty - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:51 AM

    Does it matter if he’s right or not?

    I mean, sure — yeah, San Jose are ridiculous, and Lenhart’s overly physical presence is annoying. As an RSL supporter, I can certainly attest to that. But even if Omar’s right, why is he making statements like this? As a defender, his job is to stop attackers. If he’s not comfortable doing that — if it’s not “fun” when the going gets tough, maybe there’s a bigger problem at play.

    • joeyt360 - Oct 22, 2012 at 7:09 PM

      Of course, to be fair, Omar did his job. There’s an article over on the league’s website that shows this. He won everything that went Lenhart’s way in the first half, forcing Lenhart out wide in the second half. And then, kind of out of the blue, Lenhart fouls Gonzalez but the latter gets the whistle.

      And his other point is that even when you do your job well, you’re going back forward away from the ball, and Lehnart will blindside check you out of nowhere because he knows none of the refs are looking at it. What do you even do about that stuff, since it’s so far removed from your actual job?

  6. mkbryant3 - Oct 22, 2012 at 11:57 AM

    My bad. Guess it felt like a win, coming back from deficits and seeing Wondo get to within a goal of Rocket Roy and having a SSS on the way.

    But, SD, your point is well taken re Lenhart. I’m sure I’d hate him if I weren’t a SJ fan.

    One more recollection. I’m a huge fan of Juninho, but last night he also was guilty of dirtiness. On Lenhart, he pulled the ol’ “I’m clearing the ball but really not aiming for the ball, rather cleating Lenhart and throwing an elbow at his face for good measure.” Second half, iirc.

    • Steve Davis - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:08 PM

      I 100 percent agree that LA Galaxy players were no angels last night. Edson Buddle absolutely should have been carded for blindsiding Victor Bernardez. But that’s the point … because of the overall way games are managed, brute force absolutely must be met with brute force, otherwise a team gets run out of park, perhaps on a stretcher. The Galaxy did so and came out with a 2-2 draw as a result.

      • joanismylover - Oct 22, 2012 at 4:37 PM

        Well I have to disagree that it was your point. If it was, it wasn’t well presented. Your point was to blame Steve Lenhart for all you see wrong with MLS in terms of “physicality” while ignoring that the Galaxy players were every bit as physical as Lenhart – from the opening whistle.

        To make your point that you don’t like Lenhart, you first established the credibility of your star witness, Omar Gonzalez by pumping him up as “Defender of the Year.” You bolster his credibility by citing to Nesta, though I would note you took his quote out of context and at no point was Nesta whining (whereas Gonzalez clearly was). Nesta almost certainly wasn’t discussing a specific player, much less Lenhart. Then you bold the DOTY quotes, don’t say ANYTHING about the Galaxy initiating physical contact on and off the ball, and act like it’s all Lenhart, which it isn’t. If you had done your homework or read anything leading up to the game, you’d remember that Gonzalez was looking forward to the match being a tough, physical one. He and that entire Galaxy team knew what they were doing. They were hitting Lenhart hard from the outside, on and off the ball. (I was there).

        And then you don’t “totally” blame the Earthquakes. But that implies you blame them, but just less than 100%. No blame, whatsoever, to the Galaxy. There is not a single line in that article that talks about the Galaxy being at fault for any of it.

        So your comment, and hence your article, is without much credibility. As if it wasn’t already for acting like it’s the only way the Quakes can play. If the Galaxy weren’t dropping Keane so deep into the midfield, there might have been some room to play through the midfield. But he was and there wasn’t. So the Quakes played over the top. Did you even watch the game?

        The problem with your failings in this article is that they give lie to the notion that this is the only way the Quakes play. Which is of course not true, as anyone with a semblance of soccer intelligence would know. We have probably the best midfield in MLS, although I was personally impressed with the Galaxy’s yesterday. So we’re quite capable of keeping it on the floor if our opponents don’t try to stop it by overloading the midfield.

        In summary, sir, please don’t try to act like you are being “balanced” in your “blog post.” You most certainly weren’t.

      • joeyt360 - Oct 22, 2012 at 7:14 PM


        I’m not normally one to get too worked up about refs. Yes, they ought to be calling more stuff to allow more fluid play to prosper, but in general, they try their best, the players try their best, and sometimes either or both can screw up.

        The reason why Lenhart is ‘different’, in my view, is because it’s the one time where it looks like game after game consistently bad reffing, in a consistent direction, is part of the game plan. He looks like he’s going out there to take advantage of the refs.

        Or to put it another way, it’s the hypocrisy of his game–throwing his body into guys at all times, then going down like cut redwood at first contact the other way. . . and actually getting a shocking number of calls.

      • joanismylover - Oct 23, 2012 at 1:06 PM


        The point of my post was to call out Steve Davis for being disingenuous. He claims to agree that the Galaxy players were just as “reckless” as what he perceives to be “reckless” by the Quakes players. But he actually only said that he thought Lenhart was dirty and that Lenhart was responsible for the physicality problem in MLS. Please.

        As to the substance of the issue, I would submit that big, tough defenders like Omar are not used to forwards doing to them what they do to forwards on a regular basis, outside the vantage point of the refs. There is not one defender in this league that does not initiate contact, push, kick, pull, hold forwards whenever they can to get away with it. I was at the game and saw clearly that BOTH Gonzalez and Lenny were initiating contact with one another. That Lenny does it back bothers them. Contact is inevitable when two are going for the same ball. Just most of the time, the big defender wins that “contact” battle with more frequency.

        If we really want to turn this into the correct debate, we should be talking about that issue. Why is there not more calls on defenders for smacking forwards every chance they get. Every corner kick. EVERY single one, defenders are holding the offensive players. It’s a foul, but it NEVER gets called. So a new subset of rules gets established. It’s ok to hold the player as long as the ball isn’t right near him, etc.

        Instead, Lenhart troubles people (like Mr. Davis) who can’t fathom that a forward can be both physical and score goals, yet still play fairly. Playing hard does not mean playing outside the laws of the game.

    • gxlo - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:53 PM

      Juninho’s elbow was in retaliation of Lenhart’s constant dirty playing. It’s the soccer equivalent of getting beaned. He wants to play like a prick, then he’s going to be treated like one.

  7. dfstell - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:06 PM

    I watched the game on that crummy Galavision feed and it was ugly. And this isn’t a desire for Barcelona-style soccer….there was just a LOT of fouling out there. SJ started it and eventually LA started to respond.

    Being physical is one thing, but this was more fouling and kinda dirty play where SJ is just taking advantage of the ref because they know there’s a limit to what he’ll do.

    I’m a big guy and I do kinda like watching the big guys jumping in the air and dominating the little guys. But that does’t mean they need to be throwing elbows, kicking, etc.

    • Steve Davis - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM

      Not to get off point … but you are SO right about Gala feed. (But I said something about it once on Twitter, and I guess some systems get better quality … ?) Anyway, for me, it’s painful trying to watch.

      • gxlo - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:55 PM

        Directv compresses the hell out of all the smaller Spanish channels. I’m surprised Univision hasn’t complained yet.

  8. wfjackson3 - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:08 PM

    I have been rehabbing a ligament injury for the last 3 months. Not surprisingly, it was sustained when playing against the only overtly, ridiculously mega physical team in what is supposed to be a rec league. I play physical from time to time, but I am not pressing to win simply by being more physical. At some point, it really ruins the game when people are playing like Tasmanian devils.

    PS – After 3 months, I can run without effect, but a single 40 yard dash hurts. If I cut on uneven ground, it hurts. I am scared to hell of trying to run on turf still. Ligament injuries suck.

  9. kselvig - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:09 PM

    It’s nothing new. SJ has played this way all year. If anything, it’s Omar bringing it to attention a week or two before LA is going to play SJ in a 2 game series (assuming Galaxy don’t crap themselves vs Vancouver). He made it a big deal by going after SJ and Lenhart pretty strongly,so you know it will be brought up pre-game, you know the ref will have it in his head, and if it buys a call or two or the linesmen watch a little more closely at stuff off the ball, then great. But it’s not like he’s shedding new light on something.

  10. Dan Haug - Oct 22, 2012 at 12:54 PM

    Watching San Jose play can be incredibly frustrating. I’m an LA fan, but I love Wondo’s game, and I really appreciate the grit that both Lenhart and Gordon bring to their game. However, I think refs really need to crack down on the little stuff that Lenhart does that skirts the rules. On many plays in the box it really looks like a rugby scrum, or an NFL team trying to punch in a TD on a 4th & 1.

    The interesting thing about San Jose’s style of play is that it could very well come back to bite them in the playoffs. Teams like that tend to get the calls when they play at home, but not on the road. If LA makes it past Vancouver, the first game in the SJ series is in LA. If the ref in that match calls it tight, and doesn’t allow the physical play that SJ thrives on, they could, not only find themselves behind by multiple goals, but end up with disciplinary suspensions.

  11. joed1967 - Oct 22, 2012 at 1:09 PM

    Let’s be honest, when we have central defenders moaning about being physical, the games ruined. You’re actually not aloud to tackle anymore. It has been completely taken out of the game. You used to consider your center backs to be the hardest men on your team. Never took any abuse, and they always let the strikers know they were there. Not anymore. They get bossed around like rag dolls.

    What is wrong with the “physical game”? I’ll be honest, I actually adore the way Barcelona play. And I would prefer it if every team played that way. But that is never the case. When Rangers existed, and we would play them, our fear would be “Oh they’re gonna kick us off the park on Sunday.” And theirs were “Oh, Celtic are gonna play us off the park on Sunday.”

    There is nothing wrong with playing a physical game. Look at Stoke City. They know their strengths and stick to them. Why would they change their game when its obviously working? To suit everyone else? Give us a break.

    If we didn’t have wee lassies playing the game, nobody would be complaining about any of this. Especially a central defender. Its been taking out of the game. You cant even go in with your shoulder anymore. People are getting booked at record rates year after year. I don’t even know what you would consider a booking and a red card anymore. Just put it back to what it used to be. If you were late, a booking. If there is intent to injure the opposition, red card and hes off. Half of these bloody two foot challenges have nothing wrong with them. 99% of the time, they get nothing but the ball. Its ridiculous. Now the debate on contact in the box. FFS! It’s a contact sport! Just because you get touched doesn’t mean you should be able to go down and scream for a penalty. If its a “soft” penalty, know what that means? It wasn’t a penalty.

    PS, look out for Celtic pumping Barcelona on Tuesday. It will happen!

    I know this is probably an MLS thread and I apologize for commenting on it with no examples from the MLS.

    • Steve Davis - Oct 22, 2012 at 1:32 PM

      No worries on citing examples beyond MLS. Perfectly acceptable.

      But again, I’m not advocating removal of physical play in the game. It’s an element of the sport. And direct play is a perfectly valid style.

      I am simply saying the BALANCE in MLS needs to be adjusted. The balance fell off course long ago and a better course correction needs plotting. (FYI, not really even talking about tackling here. … Talking about all the other stuff.)

  12. eatcheson - Oct 22, 2012 at 1:21 PM

    It probably didn’t help that the ref for that match was Jair Marrufo–IMO, he’s one of the worst in MLS, up there with guys like Jason Anno.

    And is Lenhart good at what he does? Sure, he wouldn’t have a job with the Quakes if he wasn’t.

    But just because someone is good at something doesn’t mean he should be encouraged to keep doing it.

    There’s a reason why Lenhart is–aside from maybe Rafa Marquez–the most-loathed player in MLS right now. If he weren’t allowed to pull the shenanigans he constantly does–ie, if refs forced him to clean up his game–he probably wouldn’t be getting called out in the press by one of MLS’s best defenders. On that point, you’re spot on, Steve.

    But at the same time, you have to lay some of the blame at the feet of Frank Yallop. As Lenhart’s coach, he could at any time tell Lenhart to knock it off. He quite clearly hasn’t. You’re right that Yallop is a fantastic coach, but his tolerance–if not outright enabling and encouraging–of Lenhart’s thuggery is a black mark on his tenure in San Jose.

    • Steve Davis - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:33 PM

      Personally, I think Silviu Petrescu is the worst in allowing physical play. He’s actually OK in game management (in terms of talking to the players, etc.), he just doesn’t like to call fouls, so games under his watch tend to be extra physical.

  13. bobinkc - Oct 22, 2012 at 1:40 PM

    Joed, you might be a lot happier watching field hockey instead of soccer. Played American-style by thugs, futbol is starting to look more like hockey. And when players like Lenhart are allowed to mug people, maybe the police should be called instead of a weak referee.

    If a player wants to play like an animal, then someone needs to start an animal league where those players will be happy (and spend most of the year injured). It really bothers me to see a really good MLS player out for several games because he was ambushed by a thug. It really, really bothers me to then have the thug given player of the week or some other honor.

    Refs who allow the thugs to triumph should be taken out behind the stadium and shot, not allowed to keep injuring players by letting thugs go on obvious card calls.

    Just my personal opinion about field hockey (and rugby).

  14. sjsharks66 - Oct 22, 2012 at 1:53 PM

    Really? You’re mad because a professional athletic team plays the game to hard and physical?

  15. manutebol - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:18 PM

    omar just went down a couple pegs in my book for the nat’l team… we need our nat’ team CB’s to be tough guys, not whiners

    • eatcheson - Oct 22, 2012 at 4:28 PM

      Omar went from tearing his ACL in January to returning to the Galaxy Starting XI in July. But some comment he made about Lenhart makes him not a tough guy instead?

      Come on.

  16. mkbryant3 - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:26 PM

    Awesome comments thread! What’s the record, SD?

    • Richard Farley - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:36 PM

      We had some crazy threads curing the Olympics. That USWNT-Canada match inspired a lively discussion. Or two.

    • Steve Davis - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:36 PM

      Not sure. I think we’ve had more, perhaps back in Olympic days (on post related to USWNT). For whatever reason, a Chivas USA post (of all things!) related to MLS marketing or some-such blew up a little while back, too.

  17. mkbryant3 - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:33 PM

    From Brian Straus: San Jose has scored 71 goals this year. Last year’s high – 56. My goodness.

    Certainly not a typical description of a thuggish team.

    • eatcheson - Oct 22, 2012 at 4:25 PM

      Over a third of those 71 goals have come from Wondo, and between him, Gordo, and Lenhart, I think he would be the consensus “least thuggish” player by a long shot.

      Try again.

      • mkbryant3 - Oct 22, 2012 at 5:00 PM

        Huh? Omar was addressing and labelling SJ as a team.

      • eatcheson - Oct 22, 2012 at 5:32 PM

        But look at who he calls out by name. It isn’t Wondo. It isn’t Gordon. It’s Lenhart, who, by the by, has fewer goals than Gordon despite getting more minutes this season.

  18. 1022555a - Oct 22, 2012 at 2:50 PM

    Butthurt. Embarrassing is SJ having the league in hand while LA may end up fighting an extra round just to make playoffs after spending who knows how much on an “all star team”. toughen up.

    • joeyt360 - Oct 22, 2012 at 7:18 PM

      I don’t have a dog in this particular rivalry, but it seems to me LA just went to your house and and made you work your butts off just for a draw. You can’t say “scoreboard” in a game you didn’t actually win.

  19. bishopofblunder - Oct 22, 2012 at 8:00 PM

    MLS is the Charlestown Chiefs of professional soccer leagues. (speaking in style of play only)

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