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		<title>By: footballer4ever</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ dreadpirate82

Behind your intended sarcasm, there&#039;s an obvious thruth which often can be overcome.  The 4-0 Germany vs Sweden example, that&#039;s a harder feat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ dreadpirate82</p>
<p>Behind your intended sarcasm, there&#8217;s an obvious thruth which often can be overcome.  The 4-0 Germany vs Sweden example, that&#8217;s a harder feat.</p>
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		<title>By: dreadpirate82</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 15:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was being sarcastic.  Sorry if that wasn&#039;t clear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was being sarcastic.  Sorry if that wasn&#8217;t clear.</p>
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		<title>By: footballer4ever</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 06:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@danielofthedale

Thanks for that insightful analysis.  In order for MLS to get the attention like EPL, MLS will have to come to the point when there will be a need to be aggressive to sign big players and throughout the league to take it to the next level.  Currently, MLS is like on a safe 2nd level; Nevertheless, feeling comfortable will not take the league to a higher level.  When will that next step happen?  Who knows!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@danielofthedale</p>
<p>Thanks for that insightful analysis.  In order for MLS to get the attention like EPL, MLS will have to come to the point when there will be a need to be aggressive to sign big players and throughout the league to take it to the next level.  Currently, MLS is like on a safe 2nd level; Nevertheless, feeling comfortable will not take the league to a higher level.  When will that next step happen?  Who knows!?</p>
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		<title>By: danielofthedale</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 05:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Orlando will be one of the SE teams. I have no doubt about it. They are avg. over 10,000 per game in the USL and are close to getting a stadium deal done. I think they are better lock for the next team to join league even over NY2.

And thanks for you support for Atlanta!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orlando will be one of the SE teams. I have no doubt about it. They are avg. over 10,000 per game in the USL and are close to getting a stadium deal done. I think they are better lock for the next team to join league even over NY2.</p>
<p>And thanks for you support for Atlanta!</p>
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		<title>By: danielofthedale</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 05:55:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I will start with the local team and then move to fan growth. We have the Atlanta Silverbacks who came back in 2011 in the NASL.the first season we were far and way the worst team in the league and the team had a very meager marketing budget. They avg. around 3,500 attendance per game in a 5,000 seat stadium. This season we were by far the worst team the first half of the season. Then the team changed management and coach. We got a new GM, Eric Wynalda came in as interim coach and Team Pres. after that we had the third best record for the rest of the season. The team avg. over 4,000 game. I expect even better things next year as they are doing a much better job marketing the team.

As for the growth, it has seen real good growth on what I call the superficial level. Lots of people following the EPL, more people getting into La Liga and the Bundeslige. The US National team draws big numbers at bars for the bigger games. The Metro Atlanta area has a very large and growing Hispanic population that is also big into the leagues from home. 

That said the acceptance of MLS has been slower. Awareness of the league has grown and is growing but its not as big as the EPL. For the sake of arguments lets say that Garber gave us a team tomorrow and it would start playing in 2014 with a good owner that put a real effort into marketing the team I would expect the first season the team would draw 15,000 per game. However I think that number could grow a good deal. Atlanta is growing at a quick rate in the same demographics that make up most of the MLS season ticket holders, especially in the supporters section. I think the city has real potential to be a successful MLS market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will start with the local team and then move to fan growth. We have the Atlanta Silverbacks who came back in 2011 in the NASL.the first season we were far and way the worst team in the league and the team had a very meager marketing budget. They avg. around 3,500 attendance per game in a 5,000 seat stadium. This season we were by far the worst team the first half of the season. Then the team changed management and coach. We got a new GM, Eric Wynalda came in as interim coach and Team Pres. after that we had the third best record for the rest of the season. The team avg. over 4,000 game. I expect even better things next year as they are doing a much better job marketing the team.</p>
<p>As for the growth, it has seen real good growth on what I call the superficial level. Lots of people following the EPL, more people getting into La Liga and the Bundeslige. The US National team draws big numbers at bars for the bigger games. The Metro Atlanta area has a very large and growing Hispanic population that is also big into the leagues from home. </p>
<p>That said the acceptance of MLS has been slower. Awareness of the league has grown and is growing but its not as big as the EPL. For the sake of arguments lets say that Garber gave us a team tomorrow and it would start playing in 2014 with a good owner that put a real effort into marketing the team I would expect the first season the team would draw 15,000 per game. However I think that number could grow a good deal. Atlanta is growing at a quick rate in the same demographics that make up most of the MLS season ticket holders, especially in the supporters section. I think the city has real potential to be a successful MLS market.</p>
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		<title>By: footballer4ever</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 05:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@danielofthedale

Realistically speaking, aside from Euros/WC viewership, how much more popular football, aka soccer, has grown up to be locally?  Do you all have a minor league team of sorts?  Your insight on that will be appreciated.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@danielofthedale</p>
<p>Realistically speaking, aside from Euros/WC viewership, how much more popular football, aka soccer, has grown up to be locally?  Do you all have a minor league team of sorts?  Your insight on that will be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: ndnut</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 05:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 SE teams. Throw my South Dakota votes in for Atlanta and New Orleans (NO and Montreal would be the best inter-regional rivalry ever). So to make conferences work we add 4 east teams, (NY2, Atlanta, NO, and someone else like Baltimore or Pittsburg) move Houston and SKC to the west, add Minneapolis for the west then we have 24, a good number in my book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>2 SE teams. Throw my South Dakota votes in for Atlanta and New Orleans (NO and Montreal would be the best inter-regional rivalry ever). So to make conferences work we add 4 east teams, (NY2, Atlanta, NO, and someone else like Baltimore or Pittsburg) move Houston and SKC to the west, add Minneapolis for the west then we have 24, a good number in my book.</p>
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		<title>By: danielofthedale</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 04:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah Atlanta is also one of the top TV markets for the last couple of Euros and World Cups. I have my fingers that crossed that when the Falcons get a new stadium that we will get one of the two Southeastern MLS teams. It would be freaking amazing to be able to go to MLS games here. And if it ever happens, Eric Wynalda will be our GM or Manager which would thrill me too since he still is my all time favorite player.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Atlanta is also one of the top TV markets for the last couple of Euros and World Cups. I have my fingers that crossed that when the Falcons get a new stadium that we will get one of the two Southeastern MLS teams. It would be freaking amazing to be able to go to MLS games here. And if it ever happens, Eric Wynalda will be our GM or Manager which would thrill me too since he still is my all time favorite player.</p>
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		<title>By: footballer4ever</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[footballer4ever]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 04:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@danielofthedale

Good to know you are in Atlanta.

Based on a local newspaper about MLS popularity: 

&quot;Miami may not have an MLS team anymore, but apparently it still has MLS fans. The league has discovered that Miami is one of the top three television markets for MLS games among non-MLS cities, along with San Diego and Atlanta.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@danielofthedale</p>
<p>Good to know you are in Atlanta.</p>
<p>Based on a local newspaper about MLS popularity: </p>
<p>&#8220;Miami may not have an MLS team anymore, but apparently it still has MLS fans. The league has discovered that Miami is one of the top three television markets for MLS games among non-MLS cities, along with San Diego and Atlanta.</p>
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		<title>By: danielofthedale</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 04:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@footballer4ever

I live in Atlanta so I have no MLS team. I did pick Sporting to win MLS Cup before the season and at the start of the playoffs so I am hoping that they can pull it out at home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@footballer4ever</p>
<p>I live in Atlanta so I have no MLS team. I did pick Sporting to win MLS Cup before the season and at the start of the playoffs so I am hoping that they can pull it out at home.</p>
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		<title>By: footballer4ever</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 03:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[danielofthedale said:

&quot;Now Houston picked up a decisive 2-0 victory in the first leg all but assuring them safe passage to the next round over SKC.&quot;
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Assuring them safe passage to the next round?? You just jinxed your team by saying that.

Do you not realize being ahead 2-0 is the most misleading score because the other team starts to feel &quot;assuring&quot; as you put it.  If not, ask Germany what happened to them at the end with a 4-0 lead vs Sweden in the last qualifier.
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dreadpirate82 said:
&quot;The good news for SKC is that 2-0 is “the most dangerous lead!!!!!!”, as we all know.&quot;
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Exactly!  I was not amazed at Houston&#039;s play in this game even if they won 2-0.  SKC, spank them Dynamo at your LIVESTRONG football pantheon in front of your passionate fans!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>danielofthedale said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Now Houston picked up a decisive 2-0 victory in the first leg all but assuring them safe passage to the next round over SKC.&#8221;<br />
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Assuring them safe passage to the next round?? You just jinxed your team by saying that.</p>
<p>Do you not realize being ahead 2-0 is the most misleading score because the other team starts to feel &#8220;assuring&#8221; as you put it.  If not, ask Germany what happened to them at the end with a 4-0 lead vs Sweden in the last qualifier.<br />
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dreadpirate82 said:<br />
&#8220;The good news for SKC is that 2-0 is “the most dangerous lead!!!!!!”, as we all know.&#8221;<br />
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Exactly!  I was not amazed at Houston&#8217;s play in this game even if they won 2-0.  SKC, spank them Dynamo at your LIVESTRONG football pantheon in front of your passionate fans!</p>
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		<title>By: dreadpirate82</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 00:44:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The good news for SKC is that 2-0 is &quot;the most dangerous lead!!!!!!&quot;, as we all know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news for SKC is that 2-0 is &#8220;the most dangerous lead!!!!!!&#8221;, as we all know.</p>
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		<title>By: danielofthedale</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Nov 2012 00:20:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Somebody from Houston has put the Hoodoo on Sporting Kansas City. Last year the Dynamo knocked out SKC in the Eastern Finals. This season SKC did not get a win in the regular season against the men in Orange. Now Houston picked up a decisive 2-0 victory in the first leg all but assuring them safe passage to the next round over SKC. Seems like Houston just plain ole has SKCs number.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Somebody from Houston has put the Hoodoo on Sporting Kansas City. Last year the Dynamo knocked out SKC in the Eastern Finals. This season SKC did not get a win in the regular season against the men in Orange. Now Houston picked up a decisive 2-0 victory in the first leg all but assuring them safe passage to the next round over SKC. Seems like Houston just plain ole has SKCs number.</p>
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