Comments on: Was the critical refereeing moment Sunday in Houston really such an egregious mistake?

By: chrish3k

chrish3k — Wed, 14 Nov 2012 23:20:01 +0000

Nuance!

http://www.proreferees.com/news-walton-clarifies-position-on-play-at-hou-v-dc.php

Good luck spinning this one… I am sure you will, try.

By: donjuego

donjuego — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:42:34 +0000

I’ve enjoyed Kyle Martino’s analysis many times. However, he says something Sunday that seriously impugns his reputation. He said Luis Camargo was good on offense but the knock on him was defensive work and quality.

Wot?

It is exactly the opposite. Luis Camargo was a D-Mid in Brazil. In Houston Moffat had that position so Kinnear used him as an attacking CM and has been unhappy with the offensive production. He has played D-mid for the Dynamo many times in a pinch, like he did Sunday. His defensive skills and commitment has always been there.

How Martino could get that so wrong is bewildering. It makes you start to think he does not do his homework and just repeats crap from un-knowledgeable others.

By: donjuego

donjuego — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 03:37:02 +0000

I was at the game and had the same perspective that Salazar did. From that view you could clearly see Augusto initiate contact during a battle for a loose ball in which Hainault had slight position. That call could go any of three ways: Foul Augusto, foul Hainault, play on. Play on is a far more reasonable call than Salazar is being credited for.

By: wfjackson3

wfjackson3 — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:23:10 +0000

The problem with your analysis is that most refs don’t seem to consider the first foul (Augusto shouldering Hainault) to even be a foul. Most of them call that as nothing but physical play.

By: tackledummy1505

tackledummy1505 — Tue, 13 Nov 2012 02:01:51 +0000

It’s definitely a yellow, not a red though, because he wasn’t the only person between the ball and the goalie. You had two defenders well on their way to the net as well. The D.C. United player was dumb enough to try and push the guy and that’s probably why the ref didn’t call it. Just because he felt one player made a foul and the second player followed up with one, so he let them slide. Just taking the ref’s view on it.

By: term3186

term3186 — Mon, 12 Nov 2012 20:24:03 +0000

The analysis of this play is rather simple, and I don’t quite understand why people don’t understand it. Lets be quite clear. Did Hainult foul Augusto? Absoultely. It was a heavy takedown that is deserving of a yellow no matter where it happens on the field (arm pull followed by a scissor kick). Was it a red card? Quite honestly it’s debatable, and I don’t think there is a clear cut answer. It could easily go either way. Depends on the referee. Could a streaking (Ashe I believe it was) defender have challenged Augusto if he had managed to avoid the tussle? Who knows.

All that being said, should Salazar blown for a DC free kick and given Hainult a card? ABSOLUTELY NOT. The salient point here is that AUGUSTO FOULS HAINULT FIRST. Hainult never has to resort to a desperation takedown if Augusto doesn’t foul him. There is no way that Hainult is going to lean on the referee to blow that initial foul, so he does everything he can to prevent the shot. Only two outcomes for this play. Either a HOU free kick for Augusto’s foul, or play on (since Houston recovered the ball). You cannot reward Augusto for fouling Hainult. The first foul must be called. It’s not terribly complicated.