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PST writers predict Premier League standings, do you agree?

Aug 15, 2013, 1:30 PM EDT

File photograph shows Chelsea's manager Mourinho celebrating win over Barcelona in their Champions League match in London

With the Premier League season beginning in just two days, we’ve been having a little fun over at ProSoccerTalk.

Amongst the plethora of top quality of season previews we’ve been churning out — you can find them all here at PST Preview central — we took some time to predict how the PL standings will look on May 11, 2014 after the final games of the season have been played.

The magic eight ball was working overtime as we discussed our picks. If only I could find that crystal ball…

The predictions from our six writers varied, but Chelsea and Manchester City are the clear favorites with our guys, while it’s not looking good for the newly promoted sides.  Also, we think Jozy Altidore’s Sunderland will struggle and Stoke’s strong American contingent won’t cover themselves in much glory.

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Below you can see who we think will win the league, who will qualify for the Champions League (top four) and who will be relegated to the Championship (bottom three). Bonus: Click on the teams and it will take you to their season preview.

Feel free to let us know your final PL standings in the comments below. Anyway, here’s our predictions:

ProSoccerTalk Prediction

JPW Steve Davis Richard Farley Mike Prindiville Kyle Bonn Liviu Bird
1. Chelsea
1. Chelsea
1. Man City
1. Man City
1. Chelsea
1. Chelsea
2. Man City 2. Man City 2. Chelsea 2. Chelsea 2. Man City 2. Man City
3. Arsenal 3. Man Utd 3. Man Utd 3. Man Utd 3. Man Utd 3. Man Utd
4. Man Utd 4. Arsenal 4. Tottenham 4. Tottenham 4. Arsenal 4. Everton
—————– —————– —————– —————– —————– —————–
5. Tottenham 5. Liverpool 5. Arsenal 5. Arsenal 5. Everton 5. Arsenal
6. Liverpool 6. Tottenham 6. Liverpool 6. Liverpool 6. Liverpool 6. Tottenham
7. Swansea 7. Everton 7. Swansea 7. Everton 7. Tottenham 7. Liverpool
8.Southampton 8. Newcastle 8. Everton 8. Swansea 8. Swansea 8. West Ham
9. Everton 9. West Brom 9. Newcastle 9. Southampton 9. West Ham 9. Norwich
10. Stoke 10. Swansea 10. Southampton 10. Norwich 10. Norwich 10. West Brom
11. West Brom 11. Sunderland 11. West Ham 11. West Ham 11. West Brom 11. Fulham
12. West Ham 12. West Ham 12. West Brom 12. Sunderland 12. Newcastle 12. Swansea
13. Newcastle 13.Southampton 13. Fulham 13. Aston Villa 13. Fuham 13. Stoke
14. Norwich 14. Fulham 14. Sunderland 14. Newcastle 14. Stoke 14.Southampton
15. Sunderland 15. Aston Villa 15. Aston Villa 15. West Brom 15. Aston Villa 15. Newcastle
16. Fulham 16. Stoke 16. Norwich 16. Cardiff 16. Cardiff 16. Cardiff
17. Aston Villa 17. Norwich 17. Stoke City 17. Fulham 17.Southampton 17. Aston Villa
—————– —————– —————– —————– —————– —————–
18. Hull
18. Cardiff
18. Cardiff
18. Stoke
18. Sunderland
18. Hull
19. Cardiff
19. Hull
19. Hull
19. Hull
19. Hull
19. Sunderland
20. C. Palace
20. C. Palace
20. C. Palace
20. C. Palace
20. C.Palace
20. C. Palace

Joe Prince-Wright

Champions: Chelsea

source:  Chelsea as the Premier League Champions is a reoccurring theme, so we must be correct… While the reigning champs Manchester United have only just made it into JPW’s top four. Controversial. All three promoted teams are going straight back where they came from and it will be a bad season for Fulham and Aston Villa.

Steve Davis

Champions: Chelsea

source:  Steve has gone for the three promoted teams to be relegated, and not many would argue with that prediction ahead of the 2013-14 season. He also has Chelsea winning the title and Newcastle surging up the table to finish in eighth spot. Do we agree with this?

Richard Farley

Champions: Manchester City

source:  Richard has Arsenal dropping our of the top four for the first time since Arsene Wenger took charge in 1996. Wise decision? He also predicts another good season for Swansea and Liverpool to break into the top six under Brendan Rodgers.

Mike Prindiville

Champions: Manchester City

source:  Prindi has gone for plenty of big names in the top six, leaving his beloved Everton out of the mix, just. He’s also one of the few writers to not pick all three promoted sides to be relegated… Looks like Stoke’s new manager Mark Hughes is in for a rough ride.

Kyle Bonn

Champions: Chelsea

source:  Few surprise picks from Kyle, as he thinks Spurs will fall to seventh this season. Maybe that will be true without the genius of Gareth Bale… if he leaves for Madrid. While he predicts Sunderland will be relegated. More Premier League woe for Altidore?

Liviu Bird

Champions: Chelsea

source:  Pretty controversial prediction from Liviu, which is sure to upset fans of Arsenal and Spurs. He has them both finishing outside the Champions League spots and Everton finishing fourth. He also has Sunderland going down and West Ham and Norwich sneaking into the top 10.

What do you think the Premier League standings will look like? Share you prediction below in the comments.

  1. Dan - Aug 15, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    I admit, I am a bit surprised to see Swansea only as high as 7th. I think they could surprise. Clearly they will score some goals. The question remains… Will they be able to keep the team together, literally and figuratively, throughout the course of the campaign?

  2. geo91 - Aug 15, 2013 at 2:19 PM

    If City can mesh properly I don’t see how they can finish anywhere but 1st in the EPL, maybe even all of Europe

    • robeml - Aug 17, 2013 at 9:39 PM

      EPL maybe. UCL – they would need an awful lot of luck with the draw. They still have a very low coefficient so wont be among the top seeds.

  3. NowWaitJustAMinute - Aug 15, 2013 at 2:20 PM

    For club that has done absolutely nothing this transfer window (unless addition by subtraction of Gervinho), you all seem to give Arsenal plenty of love. They’ve sat put while Tottenham and Liverpool made improvements. Joe even gives them 3rd, which is patently absurd on its face. No squad can move into the top 3.

    I think Arsenal loses their CL spot next year, with Spurs likely to take it. If I’m lucky, it’ll be Liverpool but even I don’t think they’ve improved enough to jump to 4th.

  4. brockrs - Aug 15, 2013 at 2:26 PM

    I think I disagree a bit with some of the predictions. I would place Tottenham in a Champions League spot and I just don’t see Arsenal finishing in the top 4 since they haven’t done much during the transfer window (this could change in the next couple weeks though). So, as the squads stand as of today, I would predict:

    1) Chelsea
    2) Man. City
    3) Man. Utd.
    4) Tottenham
    5) Liverpool
    6) Arsenal

    Relegated…Stoke, Hull, & Palace

  5. medic0nduty - Aug 15, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    Interesting that half of the writers have Cardiff, Crystal Palace, and Hull going straight back down. And I think it’s ludicrous to have Arsenal anywhere inside the top 4, let alone the top 3. If they don’t sign anyone this transfer window (and that looks more and more likely with every passing second) their chances of CL football in 2014-2015 look slim.

  6. mihawkins - Aug 15, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    Cardiff is not going back down.

  7. soccerjohn - Aug 15, 2013 at 3:09 PM

    For my fellow statheads out there, here are the means and standard deviations for PST’s predicted finishes. Lots of consensus on the top and bottom of the table, not so much in the middle. Farley was the most vanilla (agreed most with other predictions) and Bird agreed the least. Outliers? JPW must have money on Stoke and I think Southampton must have done something seriously evil to Bonn.

    Team Mean SD
    Chelsea 1.3 0.5
    Man City 1.7 0.5
    Man Utd 3.2 0.4
    Arsenal 4.3 0.8
    Tottenham 5.3 1.2
    Liverpool 6.0 0.6
    Everton 6.7 1.9
    Swansea 8.7 2.0
    West Ham 10.5 1.6
    West Bro 11.3 2.1
    Southamp 11.8 3.4
    Newcastle 11.8 2.8
    Norwich 12.7 3.4
    Fulham 14.0 2.2
    Stoke 14.7 2.9
    Sunderlan 14.8 3.2
    Aston Villa 15.3 1.5
    Cardiff 17.2 1.3
    Hull 18.7 0.5
    Palace 20.0 0.0

    • soccerjohn - Aug 15, 2013 at 3:10 PM

      Ugh, sorry. The structure of the table disappeared when I hit “post.”

      • medic0nduty - Aug 15, 2013 at 3:58 PM

        It’s all right; the table is still pretty readable in it’s current state.

        Though looking at it this way, there are a few more interesting bits. I’d be interested to hear why they rated Sunderland so lowly even with all the improvements Di Canio has made, and why they have Villa barely avoiding relegation even though they’ve kept on to Benteke (big plus for their hopes of staying in the PL) and generally seem to have learned from the mistakes that landed them in the relegation scrap.

        In the end, it’s their opinion; they don’t have to change it because of one comment over the Internet. I just find those two choices in particular to be fascinating.

  8. ndnut - Aug 15, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    Cardiff will go down and a “redd kit curse” will be born.

  9. Kyle Bonn - Aug 15, 2013 at 3:52 PM

    For the record I did these before Southampton paid €18 mil for Osvaldo. Think that bumps them out of relegation trouble.

  10. Jarred Alexandrov - Aug 15, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    Nobody picks ManU? Um it’s the same team as last year when they ran away with the title.

  11. danielofthedale - Aug 15, 2013 at 7:43 PM

    I to think his will be a City/Chelsea race and I like City. City stood pat after their championship season and United made improvements to move past them. This year United has stood pat and I think they will suffer the fate as their cross city rival the city before.

    Arsenal I think had the most points in the EPL last season after the New Year. Sure Spurs has added but what will happen to Bale? Will he stay and even if he does of he gets hurt will anyone step to show this is not a one man team? I still the top four teams are the same this season as last.

    I think Swansea will finish 6th. The squad is better and Laudrup is a great manager.

    Aston Vill will be the most improved team in the league and finish in the top half. The Forward-GK tandem of Benteka and Guzan is one of the best. The younger players should be better with a season of experience. Lambert will show why he was one of the hottest young mangers in England heading into last season.

    Everton will drop out of the top half. Roberto Martinez is not a quality manager and I never got the hype.

    Cardiff will stay up and Hull, Palace and Norwich are the teams to take the drop I think.

  12. bazimon - Aug 15, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    Underestimate United at your own peril…Same squad that dominated last season.

    • robeml - Aug 17, 2013 at 9:25 PM

      Unfortunately with the same problem as last year and the year before – we’re light in midfield – (obviously Anderson isn’t). If Carrick gets injured would cause United major problems.

      Losing Fergie will have an impact – we’ll see – it won’t be a procession this time

  13. druzod007 - Aug 15, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    I think Villa should end up in top half, they’ve played decent football in the offseason & had a great game against Malaga. Definitly top half & if not i’d be very much shocked!

    • robeml - Aug 17, 2013 at 9:27 PM

      they looked good today. Agbonlahor looked at it. Keeping Benteke very good business by Lambert

  14. bman0921 - Aug 15, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Kind of hard to speculate on this before the transfer window closes. You should do this again when it does because there’s no way Man United’s squad stays the same.

  15. toxicviolator - Aug 16, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    The team I picked better not get relegated first year I can watch. COME ON STOKE!!!!!!!!!

  16. mphunter9999 - Aug 16, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    I’ve seen several folks write up that this is going to be the “most exciting season ever”. I think the predictions above are all pretty right on and very similar. So then how exciting is it then that the Top 4 or 5 and the Bottom 3 are pretty clear and all the meaningless in the middle provides a bunch of ho-hum expectations for about 10 teams. If Bird is right and Everton qualifies for CL and Sunderland goes down, I’ll be pickled with excitement.

  17. charliej11 - Aug 17, 2013 at 2:56 AM

    I don’t care or follow English soccer much at all, but someone has to call out this contrived article.

    How many times has Man U NOT won it…and don’t include when they tied Man City a few yeras ago…

    And not one person picks them….there is NO way this is possible. I don’t believe it. NBC trying to drum up interest in a league that is all but pre-determined has not one person picking Man U…I wonder what the odds makers say. I have no idea, but I am guessing they completely disagree.

    • robeml - Aug 17, 2013 at 9:34 PM

      the order is obvious:
      Perceived wisdom is :

      Chelsea: Jose factor is worth 12 points and all that team is missing is a worldclass finisher like Rooney or Falcao

      City: Have bought well and good manager, experienced at the top of the game. Kompany was badly missed last year etc. Will need time to bed-in

      Fergie is worth 10 points a season minimum – plus United unsuccessful in transfer window so far.

      So in other words they are guessing as per usual.

  18. robeml - Aug 17, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Winners;- one of City, Chelsea or United the other sides have yet to prove they are winners.

    Think Chelski will win it but will laugh if they don’t – don’t rate their defence much. Think Man City have the best squad but new players and manager have to hit the ground running so gonna say 2nd . I don’t think United will win the league but who knows we may actually sign a midfielder that we need before the window shuts. They wont be as far as many people think and they are proven winners

    I fancy Spurs to make it top 4 with Arsenal missing out – Arsenal’s keeper just not good enough. Not convinced by LFCs defence but they may finish above Everton this year .. think it depends on Coutinho and young players tend to be inconsistent.

    Relegation: Eagles – Palace have no chance, Hull – not good enough, Stoke or Sunderland

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