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Video as Geoff Cameron scores for the United States! Oh … wait … they didn’t count it!

Nov 19, 2013, 3:54 PM EDT

It’s just a friendly … nothing on the line. But let’s not have that stop us from making (yet another) appeal to everyone that isn’t getting goal line technology going to do so. And to be quick about it.

Geoff Cameron headed in Michael Bradley’s corner kick in the first half against Austria as the teams met in a friendly in Vienna. The ball did appear to cross the goal line, but goalkeeper Robert Almer reached in and kept the score level for the moment.

Here is it:

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  1. Circe - Nov 19, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    I’m not convinced of the goal because I did not see a single replay demonstrating that the ball crossed the line completely. It certainly looked as though it may have or did, from some angles, and as though it did not from others. I have divided loyalties. As Keepermom x 2, I tend to see the keeper’s angle. The keeper certainly did what he should: he obscured the view and got it out confidently and quickly.

    I’m not sure, as you point out, that there is proof without an electronic eye. Still, won’t the keeper’s hand and body be able to obscure that, too? There is an element of judgement in sports that makes refereeing a brave and thankless task, and gives fans and parents hoarse voices. Yes, I have offered to explain the rules to a ref now and then. Given that we are in the US and some don’t know them, and some linesman are too heavy, uninterested, or out-of-shape to keep up with the play, I was (usually) not entirely…over the line! The hand ball is a separate issue, as it should be.

    • tridecagon - Nov 19, 2013 at 5:06 PM

      I don’t know why people are thumbing this down, you’re absolutely right about not being convinced. It “looks” like a goal, but the entire ball has to completely cross the line, and there’s no camera angle actually on the goal line to show whether this happened. Very hard to say – likely the best view was that of the AR, but his position is not necessarily directly on the goal line either, as his primary job in that situation is to call offside.

      Some of the available technologies are not optical, but use tracking chips embedded in the ball. Others use so many cameras that it would be virtually impossible to completely obscure their view. Regardless, we have a system where viewers sitting at home are in much better position to make a correct call than the referees on the field. That must not be allowed to continue.

      • joeyt360 - Nov 19, 2013 at 8:03 PM

        I guess that would be the argument for GLT.

        But let me point out, if there’s a human goal judge instead, he might have seen the probable goal. . . or the OBVIOUS penalty.

      • konmtu - Nov 20, 2013 at 6:43 AM

        Why is the AR’s responsibility on that play to watch for an offside? It was a corner. It’s extremely difficult to be offside on a corner, unless it’s played short, which it wasn’t. He should have moved toward the end line and watched the ball after the kick was taken.

  2. hildezero - Nov 19, 2013 at 5:39 PM

    Damn. That sucks. That could’ve counted.

  3. letsgocaps88 - Nov 19, 2013 at 6:38 PM

    It’s a tough call, But regardless still could of been a handball atleast. Not to mad though because our boys will be in Brazil!

  4. jsect - Nov 19, 2013 at 9:15 PM

    Sorry, but that’s definitely a goal. If you look at the keeper’s body position, his left foot is well past the line in his set up, and even though he begins to come forward, when he swats the ball out his hip is past his foot, his shoulder is well past his hip, and his hand is well past his shoulder. He was pretty deep inside when he contacts the ball. When he knocks it out, it caroms directly off the center of the post at a pretty good angle and with much diminished velocity. If the ball wasn’t well past the line it would have come off the front curve of the post, more on a line out toward the side of the box and with more velocity. No way that ain’t a goal. It just happened too fast for the ref to see it.

  5. timkvfp - Nov 20, 2013 at 5:38 PM

    Watch the AR in the video as he steps away from the goal line during the play; so his angle isn’t the best to judge goal/no-goal.

    Yes his job is to judge offside but also critically to judge whether the ball has crossed the line. The bottom line is, 2 defenders (GK and defender on the post) were on the goal line so that is where the AR should have stayed in order to determine offside and (in this case) whether the ball crossed the line.

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