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David Moyes tries to put positive spin on Manchester United loss; eight defeats and counting this season

Feb 1, 2014, 12:37 PM EDT

David Moyes AP

Every time you think Manchester United have turned the corner this season, they keep faltering.

The Red Devils lost 2-1 at Stoke on Saturday, as they’ve now lost eight times in their opening 24 games this season.

United haven’t been had that many defeats at this stage of the season since 1989-90.

David Moyes, once again, cut a dejected figure after the latest defeat, but is trying to remain positive

“I don’t know what we have to do win this game,” Moyes smiled. “I was pleased, we made opportunities and I thought we played well in difficult conditions. The first goal is takes wild deflection and goes in. I thought Robin [van Persie] played well and got us a goal. I thought Juan [Mata] played well and Wayne [Rooney] played well. We just couldn’t get the second or third goal require to get something out of the game.”

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During the game United did work hard and tried to carve out plenty of chances, but they really struggled to open up Stoke and get in behind the Potters. As Moyes mentioned Mata, Rooney and RVP played together for the first time and showed glimpses of what they can do as a trio, as Mata set up van Persie for the 46th minute equalizer.

However the club record signing from Chelsea drifted out of the game on the right wing, as the Red Devils succumbed to two long-range efforts from Stoke City’s Charlie Adam in either half.

United had 19 efforts during the game, but only four of those shots were on target as it was yet another bad day at the office for Moyes and his side.

They didn’t play badly against Stoke, and were certainly disrupted after Johnny Evans and Phil Jones both had to go off in the first half, leaving Michael Carrick playing in central defense.

However it is going forward where United still need to improve, as they haven’t scored more than two goals in any of their last nine games.

That’s very un-United like. But then again, this is a very un-United season.

  1. sahrmilton - Feb 1, 2014 at 1:02 PM

    David Moyes is the wrong coach for Manchester United. That’s plain as day. Any coach that leaves Antonia Valencia and Adnan Januzaj on the bench and plays Mata on the wing with Cleverly in the middle has no clue what they’re doing. Moyes is going to keep guessing his teams while the defeats keep adding up. The Glazers should thank Moyes and Alex Ferguson and move on to a completely new manager. Louis Van Gaal would be a better candidate than Moyes

  2. sahrmilton - Feb 1, 2014 at 1:03 PM

    Moyes has stamped his personality on Manchester United …hesitant, scared, counting on luck to be bailed out of situations.

  3. sahrmilton - Feb 1, 2014 at 1:06 PM


  4. tonyolekanma - Feb 1, 2014 at 1:32 PM

    That’s OK! Remember: There will be ups & downs. All told, most AWAY games in FIFA FOOTBALL are tough. ManU will be alright when things jell. let’s go!!

  5. daviddmsvcp - Feb 1, 2014 at 2:50 PM

    Manchester United. Honestly, who cares?

  6. sahrmilton - Feb 1, 2014 at 5:48 PM

    Cleverley must the most overrated player in the world. Hardworking but no talent. Typical English player. Should not have played against Stoke City. Never moves the ball forward, always moves the ball from side to side. One touch, pass, runs to hide behind the next opponent so the ball does not come his way. Fletcher, Carrick and Mata should have been central midfielders against stoke

  7. drewvt6 - Feb 1, 2014 at 6:01 PM

    When you’re Manchester United you can’t afford ups and downs. Everyone is playing up, at their best trying to beat you.

    Moyes is a terrible manager for this team. I like Van Gaal as a suggestion. I also like the idea of bringing in Frank DeBoer from Ajax. Someone who has had success as a player, someone who currently manages a pressure cooker.

  8. dfstell - Feb 1, 2014 at 6:58 PM

    He needs to go. There’s probably no point to firing him now although a few months of Ryan Giggs: Player/Coach would be better.

    He’s just an average EPL coach. United can do better and are capable of paying for better.

    There’s just nothing to suggest that he is going to turn it around. Not even a couple of flickers of anything positive. We’ve goen from a team that played fun, direct, attacking football to a team that just hoofs it into the box. It’s really pedestrian football.

    Now… probably wasn’t his fault. When both of your centerbacks get hurt in the first half, that will kinda screw you up. But, when you’ve made such a joke of the whole season, you can’t withstand these sorts of outcomes.

  9. doug325 - Feb 2, 2014 at 2:56 AM

    Thought that United would play better today as they had both Robin Van Persey and Wayne Rooney back today. Team was just flat and never got going. Its going to be a struggle for United to get a Champions League spot this year

  10. sahrmilton - Feb 3, 2014 at 4:12 PM

    Dear David Moyes,playing Tom Cleverley is one of your biggest mistakes with Manchester United at the moment. Cleverley is committed, he runs around but he has NO TALENT. Cleverley does not do anything productive with the ball, just passes it from side-to-side with less than one touch on it. Opposing teams know this. They are not fools. As soon as they find Cleverley in a team they know the midfield is open for business. David Moyes if you’re reading this play Rooney and Van Persie up front with Januzaj, Mata and Valencia behind them followed by Evra, Smalling, Evans, Rafael, Carrick/Jones and De Gea. For substitutes, please use Fletcher, Kagawa, Chicharito, Welbeck, Vidic, Young, Ferdinand,and Cleverley in that order. Only use Cleverley when every other midfielder is injured. If you cannot handle the job, if United is too big for you, please resign and let Giggsy or someone else finish the season. You have already driven Manchester United’s stock down with your boring approach to everything.

  11. sahrmilton - Feb 3, 2014 at 4:24 PM

    Dear David Moyes, playing Tom Cleverley is your biggest mistake at Manchester United. He is hardworking but lacks the talent. Your best team is Rooney and Van Persie up front with Januzaj, Mata and Valencia playing just behind them followed by Evra, Smalling, Evans, Carrick/Jones, Rafael, and De Gea. Have Carrick or Jones sit just on top of the half circle in front of the defenders. For substitutes: Kagawa, Chicharito, Fletcher, Welbeck, Vidic, Young, Ferdinand, and Cleverley. Please David Moyes, if the Manchester United job is too big for you and you didn’t ask for it, please resign. Giggs could finish the season for us as manager and do a better job than you have. Your worried face has become the face of a tortured Manchester United and our fans are not used to that.

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